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Guns and Town Halls
by GrouchoMarxist
Posted on 11 August 2009 | 12:35 pm 
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I’m sure you’ve all seen the report of the man with a gun who was protesting outside Obama’s town hall today…
Outside the event where President Obama will conduct his town hall, there is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun — a pistol strapped to his lower leg.
The local police chief said it’s legal for the man to have a registered handgun — as long as it is not concealed. What’s more, he is on private property, a church yard, which has given him permission to be there.
But this isn’t the first instance of the armed showing up at town halls…
Following a tense town hall meeting by Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) in Memphis over the weekend, local TV reported that one attendee was packing heat and had been escorted from the room — which if true, would be a dramatic escalation in the increasingly confrontational health care debate. However, TPMDC has learned that there was not in fact any threat made, nor was it a cause for immediate alarm in its full context.
While one attendee did indeed possess a firearm, he did so in accordance with the state’s conceal and carry laws, and was fully cooperative when asked to take it to his car due to a no-guns rule for the meeting.
And then there was this:
Officer Marcus Gonzalez, the public relations representative for the police in Douglas, Arizona, has confirmed to TPM that police were indeed called out to an event last week by Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, where an attendee had dropped a gun.
Gonzalez does not know any further details at this time. But he could confirm to us that it was “not just media hype.”
What makes these people — benign as they are — think that it’s a good idea to pack heat to a town hall meeting? Concern for their safety? I wouldn’t think so. After all, we know that mainstream conservatives would never promote violence at town hall meetings.
Angry protesters screamed, yelled and banged on windows as officers hurried to guard the entrances to the facility, where U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor was trying to discuss the various health care reform proposals being debated in Congress. One photojournalist said that a fistfight broke out inside the building, reports WTSP.
Many of the hundreds of protesters said that they had been inspired by a conservative activist group promoted by Fox News host Glenn Beck and some received emails from the county Republican party, according to the St. Petersburg Times
Perhaps they’re just standing up for their rights, as is encouraged by ammoland.com.
Or maybe they’re just a couple of oddball cases. Citizens who haven’t broken any laws, but they made sure that we all know that they’re armed. In public. At political meetings. Not trying to be intimidating or anything.
We shall see.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK3g3hEBPtA
Ice Cube retorts …….
305 they gotta come wit it
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:43 am
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Actually ‘King of the Hill’ came before ‘Ice Cube Killa’.
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Going but love you guys.
See you later???.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:23 am
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Of course!
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:32 am
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How unpolite of me have a great and prosperious day kalima!!!!
And I am proud of you professing your faith!!!
Nothing wrong with that!!!
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:34 am
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Anytime my lady.
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But of course MJF known ya a long time…
And never put you in a catagory of such neanderthals.
Just a reminder of what now is a legal aspect of what happens.
And what artists original tracts we hear reflect.
41….
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:23 am
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No sweat, love the real discussion!
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I mind as well say this now:
I’m sorry Groucho that me, X , & MJF straigh up jacked your thread.
But it’s a good discussion & I wouldn’t have it any other way.
FRT baby.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:14 am
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This is a real discussion about race relations. It’s awesome and I know of nowhere else it could happen.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:25 am
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Wait until Thursday, my friend.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:15 am
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PS, might I say also, Groucho wouldn’t care at ALL that his thread went this direction.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:24 am
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Ahhhhh, I see. Good then.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:27 am
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You forgot
I am sorry too. . .
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You were referring to stolen music MJF . . . My friend Elvis and Pat Boone were factual jackers of beats …
Check this Ice Cube version on how you steal someone’s song and mix it. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vsLcNJdF9k
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:48 am
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Well you aren’t going to find a fan of either of those folks with me, but are you saying he stole something the “right” way?
Maybe I don’t get it.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:55 am
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Well, Ice Cube pioneered thi nmethod of MC battling.
Basically you take the beat of the person that you’re battling and destroy them with it.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:57 am
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So Ice Cube was trying to destroy Bruce Hornsby?
Somehow I doubt it.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:05 am
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Better to give an example, this is Cypress Hill jacking Ice Cube’s beat to battle him:
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:16 am
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Okay I see that 305, but why is that cool?
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:22 am
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It’s a way to say ‘I’m taking something you made & making it better to prove that I’m the better competitor.”
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:00 am
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And why are you “battling” anyone?
I really don’t get it I think.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:06 am
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Battling is as old as Hip-Hop itself.
Have you ever heard of the dozens?
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:18 am
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Yep, that’s how I buy my eggs.
Seriously, I have really enjoyed this discussion, but I think it’s time for frogs to collapse into slumberville.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:20 am
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Me too, it was great though.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:24 am
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Agreed!
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:57 am
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No he is saying that he Jacked their beats and under the wraps he paid the original artists their share of the royalties ..
Something Elvis and Pat Boone didn’t and wasn’t forced by the existing laws to do……well Lil Richard and Fats Domino still drank out of a colored fountain and wasn’t privity to copywriting laws because??
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:05 am
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Hey man, I am just as outraged at the way musicians were treated. I moved to the south in my teens and had no part of this culture. So keep in mind, I have been trying to understand foreign (to me) cultures for many many years.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:08 am
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It’s a sad position for old artists.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:11 am
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Hearing some of the interviews with an old Louis makes a music fan want to cry. And I have.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:48 am
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Oh hell yea, ‘Jackin’ for Beats’
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No guns more cinnamon Danish buns instead!
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:34 am
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Mmmmmmmmmmm, danish….
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:36 am
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Here, ready for you Daniel, any time.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:43 am
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Thank you my lady.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:48 am
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I meant the Danish, Guten Morgen.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:56 am
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LMAO!
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:07 am
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Quick Daniel, snorting right now.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:14 am
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Nice.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:35 am
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Mmmmmmmmmmm! Cinnnimon buns. The best thing in the world with milk and a sweet Noodlez.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:39 am
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i love your Noodelz too, have 2 or 3 or 4. Go with the flow.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:43 am
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I can only do one so I don’t fall out from a sugar overdose.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am
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I love your sugar, don’t be mad.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:59 am
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I can take you sugar all day and night, just not the real thing.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:03 am
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Ok ?, I sent something to your sugar on the 23rd of June, air mail, nothing arrived. should I be worried or go ahead with birthday gift, worried?
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“Four long years later it’s time to graduate
From a school that’s second rate
literacy level of grade eight
No scholarship from the state ’cause I don’t run a 4.8
Second, listen to the third person, you might find a fact that a LOT of people don’t know about the California penal system.”
I tried to listen. It’s hard when that’s not what you are used to hearing.
That said, how is it that anyone makes it out without a sports award? I went to a school that had the richest and poorest in a southern city together. It was VERY tense at times. But what I saw was the majority of the really poor kids (I was only sort of poor) wanted to see their peers do nothing in class. Not just do nothing, but prevent anyone else from doing anything. If that is the culture. “Resist any authority no matter what!” Where does it go? Can a culture like that advance at all?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:10 am
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I see no changes wake up in the morning and ask myself is life worth livin should I blast myself.
And still I see no changes can a brother get a lil peace there’s war on the streets and a war in the middleeast instead of a war on poverty they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
I see no changes all I see is racist faces misplaced hate let’s digrace the racists.
And although it may be heaven sent we are not ready to see a black president.
And as long as I stay black I gotta stay strapped
TuPac Shakur………….That’s just the way it is.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:19 am
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“And although it may be heaven sent we are not ready to see a black president.”
Seems he was wrong, eh?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:25 am
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Turn on your MSM ???
But I am glad he is wrong on OUR behalf. . .
He should have said “they” aint ready
Racial Predjudice was his theme…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWJJl8osF7w
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:32 am
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So he stole good music and put his own words to it, and that makes it his own?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:33 am
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I met the man who wrote the actual music to that song. He is a fine and talented man. And the song was good the way it is.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:12 am
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Ahhh, now you have hit on a deep sociological issue.
Part of what you brought up has a history that goes back to slavery days. During that time there was noted tension between the field slaves & the house slaves. The field slaves felt that the house slaves acted like they were superior to them since they spent a lot of time with the slavemasters. In time field slaves got to the point where they saw house slaves as traitors.
This tension & animosity has been transplanted to the inner cities. Now you have situations where someone from that area trying to come up through education being seen as the new ‘house slaves’ that want to be with the slavemasters.
This is the politics that has to be dealt with in Black & Latino communities. It has gotten to the point where the only three accepted ways out of the streets are through sports, entertainment, and crime.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:21 am
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And the divide that republikkkan politians and conservative democrats wish to keep going…..Blacks and Hispanics as enemies to one another……
Well known fact, no unification and solidarity will prevent overall bonding with the majority liberal base….
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:22 am
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You’re going to love what I ot in store on Thursday my friend.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:31 am
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Make an IMPACT!!!!!! Put it out there, gotta make a change, your format backin ya down fo what ever.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:22 am
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So why would one of those sociologically unacceptable ways be glorified?
It’s not strictly a youth rebellion thing.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:27 am
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It’s not.
Rappers have tried to adress it but their communities are shutting them down. This can explain it better that I can:
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:40 am
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I feel all those thing, but don’t like it. Does that make me one of them?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:44 am
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MJ was one of the best, when can we appreciate him again?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:45 am
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Well, yes and no.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:53 am
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Do you know how a long hair is treated in the south?
I have kept long hair for 30 years (Except the time I was locked up, yup I have cred) because of the way it allows me to distinguish the open minders vs. the wingnuts.
I get my ass kissed by the rich folks now because I am GOOD at what I do. It pains me to see people (in my opinion) waste talent by promoting thuggery.
Why is that good?
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:57 am
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You have the nerve to ask about hair???
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:01 am
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It’s not, but unfortunately it sells. That’s why the music industry keeps putting it out a lot more than thedy do conscious Hip-Hop.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:07 am
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So you are saying the bad cops are keeping the good cops silent?
Hmmmmm, I have heard about that somewhere before.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:13 am
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So I’m saying that I love your girlfriend, so sue me. If you see AC, tell him I love him muchly, please?? I do !
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:21 am
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I will, and so do I on both points.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:16 am
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I actual police matters for the most part6 yes.
In the discussion we’re having now, it’s ust capitalism.
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:20 am
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But why isn’t it the same?
(I think cops are corrupt scum for the most part, if that facilitates this discussion.)
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What is Hip Hop today???? A relic only left to be tasted and savored by the likes of 5 and myself. What it morphed into MJF is a renegade or as we call it in our society is “jackin” others not familiar with the term can use “hyjacking”
By no means this brainwashing of minority youth promising wealth by violence can ever be equated to the likes of Run DMC, Melle Mell, Digable Planets, Sugar Hill Gang or Kurtis Blow…..
This insult to inner city poetry can never compare..
Now on the other hand gangster rap takes you into racial profiling,hopeleness,unemployment,bitterness, and self gratification. Another setback by inner city youths of all ethnic backgrounds….
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:27 am
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& that’s why Gangsta rap serves a purpose ala Kool G Rap & NWA.
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:30 am
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Not militia….
But unlikely allies….
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:40 am
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Yup.
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:36 am
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I have seen the “jackin” happen in the past. The break dancing Hershy commercial comes to mind.
But why doesn’t the legit hip-hop culture do anything to quiet the nutbars?
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:44 am
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Naaa. . . Not “jackin” MJF !!! “Breakin”
You are the man my friend!!
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:00 am
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No, Hersey “jacked” the breakin’.
I am not THAT bad off! LOL
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:15 am
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Ohhhhh OK got ya my friend commercial…yeah I remember 5 disliking what happened to Digable Planets …I stand corrected
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:20 am
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Yea, a damn detergent commercial.
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August 12th, 2009 at 12:48 am
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It’s a complicated issue.
Hip-Hop culture has four major elements:
MCing, Tagging, Breaking & DJing.
Of the four elements the ones that make the most money are MCing & DJing. Those are the ones that have been distorted for economic reasons. The other have been largely ignored except for Breaking whic has shown up a lot lately.
The only element that has remained pure has been Tagging.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:01 am
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Lately? I am talking about a commercial from 1985 or so.
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August 12th, 2009 at 1:16 am
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Breaking maintained an undergroung feel until all of the streer dancing movies came out.
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Well yet another backwoods ignorant, stupid, moranic. hopeless, sick, insane, rabid, sisterfuking, motherlicking, brother?son huggin republiKUKLUXKLANcan………………………………………aaaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!! attempt to exploit and find a weakness in our POTUS defenses or the extent of his Secret Service detachment’s powers to provide proper protection for a standing President..
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
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Nice one X.
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
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305 How do ya see it playa????? I tell ya bro I will not stand for another black leader being assasinated by these dicksucking racist coward cousin fucking retards ………..ban me !!!! Hate is a strong word word but these bastards has got my race bent as croocked as a cockroach leg it they think this wond evolve in absolute war……wwe have militia too…..
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
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Ohh, man I have an LLLOOOOONNNGGG opinoin on this homie. I’ll save it for Thursday.
& don’t ban him please, I’m sure some of us have said worse here.
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
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A very sad day. . . . . . . .
By the way congrats on your article 305, I look forward to your next street article…
Maybe e-mail you some heroic articles and issues that the first Black District Attorney of Dallas County is currently involved in…You should see the injustices and uneven handed jurisprudence levied againt hispanics, blacks and whites
41 5000 ……..
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
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Hell yea, hit me up with a PM.
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
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No prob will do!!!!!
By the way you forgot “SPM” (South Park Mexican) in your article.
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August 11th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
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What the fuck he do now?
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
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The Last Chair Voilinist..
Still in Palistine Texas earlist parole 2024..
He still lives but a part of that Houston Krew you mentioned, but often a spin off as “Dope House Records”……
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
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I wasn’t talking about them man, I was talking about the NY Terror Squad (Fat Joe, Big Pun, Cuban Link, Triple Seis, Armageddon, & Prospect.)
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
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I don’t get why being imprisoned is cool in the hip-hop culture.
I know the racial issues and all. But why is it that if you haven’t been to jail, you aren’t “street”?
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
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I’ll try to explain it as best as I can:
Since Hip-Hop culture rose from the ghettos in America, it has gained its’ values. One of those values is ‘not snitching’.
If you are involved in a criminal enterprise & you go to prison for a long time ,you will be seen as not having snitched or your crew unless you turn state in prison.
Another aspect of it is that if you’re going to be rappin’ about gangsta shit, you better have the track record to back it up or you will be seen as a busta.
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
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Okay, so if we want to live in a society where we can be free from home invasions and imminent personal death, why would this culture be a good one to be engaged in?
August 11th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
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I was talking about this with a friend and he brought up a good point.
Numerous long haired hippies have served time in jails. Why don’t they have “cred”?
August 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am
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To Frog:
Ahhhhh, now we’re getting into history here!
Early Hip-Hop wasn’t like this. It was conscious.
‘The Message’ by Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
‘White Lines’ by Melly Mel
“Hard Times’ By Run-DMC
‘Jesse’ in which Melly Mel destroyed Reagan.
These were great conscious songs.
The problem happened when Gangsta rap came in & the industry saw how much money it made. That basically relegated conscious Hip-Hop to the underground.
Rappers like KRS-One, Common, Immortal Technique, Sick Jacken, Jedi Mind Tricks, Ill Bill, & various others are keeping with the real spirit of Hip-Hop.
We need a Hip-Hop Nirvana.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:07 am
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I think that they have cred, but in their own community.
That’s one of the problems though.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:10 am
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I LOVE funk, but rap can’t hook me. I don’t know most of the names you put out. Sow about this. Show me a vid of the best new hip-hop you can think of considering what you know.
I’ll also tell you this. The best “hip-hop” I ever saw was Herbie Hancock. I had some buds who said THAT was real hip-hop!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 12:15 am
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Do you know Spanish Frog?
August 12th, 2009 at 12:17 am
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Nada. I am a dyslexic trapped with English.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:21 am
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In that case Frog here ya go:
August 12th, 2009 at 12:28 am
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I heard a line saying “I didn’t get the scholarship cause I didn’t get the 4.8.”
When I was in school, those with “cred” disrupted classes and tried to learn nothing. Why would that person be surprised by not getting a scholarship?
August 12th, 2009 at 12:31 am
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I guess this is the real question. How is being an uneducated gangsta better than being an uneducated redneck with one tooth?
August 12th, 2009 at 12:38 am
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Frog:
First, Here is part of the verse you brought up:
Four long years later it’s time to graduate
From a school that’s second rate
literacy level of grade eight
No scholarship from the state ’cause I don’t run a 4.8
Second, listen to the third person, you might find a fact that a LOT of people don’t know about the California penal system.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
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I know but it was your debut I was just giving you some more info of the east/mid coast affiliations in the feud you mentioned. Hell your article brought some things I didn’t know to life……Nice work 5. Just a reporter 4 ya and daps on that trooper…
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
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Ahhhh, ok homie. My bad if I sounded heated.
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
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Like you I spent the early yearsof my life in a major metropolitian city namely Dallas, so sounding heated only warms me, no harm no foul. still enjoyed ya article though. Keep it real and tell it true, It’s hard for people to understand that someone from the inner cities could ever embrace or comphrend political sciences or tactics.. Do wat ya do black and keep spittin those unwritten truths, and expose the hardships of the fabulous cities noone ever see…. as we say here “I’m fento raize up ” later black….
August 11th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
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Did you see my photos of Detroit?
August 12th, 2009 at 12:11 am
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Yea Frog, One of the consequences of moving from an industry based society to a service based one.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:12 am
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One X.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/chris-matthews-to-tow n-ha_n_256952.html
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August 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
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Thanks a lot!
I went there. Now I need a shower.
I did get to slap at a Rupauline, though.
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August 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
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Haven’t seen Burl yet.
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Smack me now and smack we hard, why do you need guns again??
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August 11th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
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Smack ME hard will do too, also, eye probs, sorry.
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so let me get this straight….
an angry white protester WITH A GUN, lurking outside of a building that contains the POTUS is okay….
but an angry black man UNARMED, walking with a cane in his own house is arrested for “disorderly conduct”….
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August 11th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
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At what tempurature does your blood boil? I spend most of my time going Zen, but there are certain societal issues that make me want to explode. You jsut touched on one of them. It’s fucking disgusting.
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The big question my mind can’t understand is where were all these screaming “Americans” during the Bush administrations lies and deceits. Why weren’t they screaming at the top of their lungs when their precious money and jobs were being either ship out, used for a war, or when deals were being made to keep paying for that life line of Saudi oil. That is where they lost their America… as an old comic I heard on the radio used to say every morning… “WAKE UP AMERICA”
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August 11th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
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Exactly!!!!!
when we said anything critical of the horror of the Bush/Cheney rein of terror, we were told to leave the country!!!
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August 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
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or, in the case of certain reporters (dan rather, aaron brown) and comedians (bill maher, whoopi goldberg), fired…..
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My opinion on this might be a wee bit too long.
I’ll leave that for Thursday.
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as Ed just pointed out, it’s not difficult for any other nutcase to grab that gun away from this idiot — it’s happened many times. Even cops have had their firearm lifted
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One thing to remember–most Americans get their news from the network evening broadcasts.
I’m watching those broadcasts now.
The wingnuts are not being portrayed sympathetically.
They are being portrayed as the shrill haters they are.
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
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Good to hear. It’s probably too much to ask for – but wouldn’t it be nice to hear the MSM make the connection between the hate-filled wingnuts and the Republican party? All of this hostility and insanity came out of the cesspool during the Unstable/Unable campaign….
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
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They showed footage of the wingnuts self describing as Republican.
I think that Tundra Tart’s comments about “Death Panels” is going to come back to bite the entire Republican Party.
She went over the line, and the press knows it.
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
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Sarah’s “Death Panels” are in wingnutty pine.
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
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I would love to see Fran Lebowitz interview Palin.
Tundra Tart would have such a meltdown once she was told what Fran had said.
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
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Sarah is the Democrats’ BFF
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
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I saw one article today – damn, was in it USA today? (Amtrak fare…) one moron columnist was comparing Palin to REAGAN – saying that PALIN could VERY well run in 2012 – she could make a big impression, just like Reagan, and surprise EVERYONE – she could not only win the Repub. nomination, but also too, give a great run in the general election. BAWHAAAAAAA
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
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stranger things have happened — if something horrible (godforbid) happens here in the next year or so, I wouldn’t be shocked to see a lot of Americans get scared silly and make some very bad decisions
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
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Yeah, you could very well be right — boy, it’d have to be something big – and I’d think that SP has made SO many dumbshit statements, that there’d be no way she’d be a real contender — but as you say, Americans can make some really stoopid decisions….
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
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well, Jeb Bush comes to mind *yikes*
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here’s an interesting bit from L.A., annual free healthcare screenings
“Hundreds of people were already lining up to receive free healthcare checks at the the Forum in Inglewood.
Volunteer doctors, dentists and optometrists will conduct free health clinic for uninsured and under-insured individuals.
The eight-day healthcare event will run from 5:30 a.m to 6 p.m. and is sponsored by Remote Area Medical, a charity that in the past has staged clinics in rural sections of the United States.
People started arriving before 3. Many said they didn’t have health insurance and saw this as an opportunity to be checked out. Organizers placed them in stadium seats outside the Forum, and some said they waited for hours to get medical treatment.
Since 1985, about 400,000 adults and children have been treated by the organization, its leaders said. Individuals will not be required to show proof of income or insurance or documentation of any kind for treatment, according to organizers.
Only 1,200 people a day will be scheduled for the 45 medical exam rooms, 100 dental stations and 25 eye exam sites set up at The Forum, they said. Full exams, including Mammography, chest X-rays, PAP smears, blood pressure screening and diabetes screening will be offered. Prescription eye glasses will be fitted and prepared on site, said organizers.”
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
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Thank you for posting this. Not all Doctors are only concerned with the bottom line.
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
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that’s for sure!
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Here’s a brilliant Claire McCaskill scolding the childish protestors.
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
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I don’t think they want to persuade anyone of their position, they’re still upset their candidate lost. The townhalls are one big conservative tantrum.
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
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“tantrum” is the perfect term to describe it.
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I think this is insanity. I don’t believe in the second amendment. I think it’s garbage and is outdated by about a century.
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great piece from Calitics — Taking Back the Townhall
http://www.calitics.com/diary/9822/how-we-won-the-monterey-health-care -town-hall
Lessons and Takeaways
Our goal at the town halls should NOT be to fight wingnuts.
Do not take their bait.
Our goals should instead be to build the case for reform.
Tell your story. Anyone who went to a Camp Obama last year knows the importance of the “story of self” – a 1-2 minute focused story of a personal experience of yours that makes it clear why health care reform is needed.
Make sure your local Democrats are organized. The Monterey County Democrats did not put on this event – Sam Farr did. But the Dems did do our own organizing around this, particularly giving much of the above training to our members who were interested in attending.
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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and FireDogLake has a great event finder widget
(Admin – we can embed it here, if we want)
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/event/search_simple
I think organizing and showing up would be a very good idea
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anyone just see the “Gun Toter” being interviewed by Tweety?
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
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He made no sense, it was actually scary. So, he brings his gun to defend himself, but defend himself against what?
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
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Oh no, that WSJ dumbitch is on right now. VOMIT
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
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Yes, the idiot that said it would be safer is everyone there packing heat….A Ron Paul nut…
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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Well, let’s face it, it’s very, very difficult to conceal a machete (without hurting yourself, heh). And, it’s oh so 18th century…
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From personal experience, I know of few other venues for vehemence. Don’t we routinely see recorded fights breaking out everywhere from Sri Lanka to Minsk in town meeting type events?
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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Yeah, and we regularly see military coups in plenty of other nations, too. That doesn’t mean that we want to see them here.
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
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We’ve gotten Third World enough.
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
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make that – We’re getting….
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Why take a gun to a town hall meeting? Having a license to carry a weapon is a lame excuse…It’s only a matter of time before the fireworks go off at one of these meetings…
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August 11th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
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Yup yup yup. Anyone who would take a gun, concealed or otherwise, where our President is going to be, is looking for trouble on many levels. They are retarded and dangerous.
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August 11th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
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actually, FIREWORKS are illegal — you’d be arrested for taking a “sparkler” to a Townhall
makes sense, huh?
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anyone who truly wants to understand the mindset of the rightwing movement in America should read the fascinating book “Suburban Warriors”
Harvard Prof Lisa McGirr uses Orange County, CA. as the example of the birth and growth of the suburban conservatives.
now, this is a book I’d LOVE for all of us to discuss in the “future book corner” — even though it’s from 2001, it is something everyone should read now. Here’s a summary:
http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/schrag/wiki/index.php?title=Suburban_Warri ors:
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Unfortunately, “oddball cases” are the scariest & most unpredictable.
I think they should have a check point where people can leave all weapons until they leave. I believe they used to do that in the Old West. I am really losing patience with these idiots.
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