I noticed you all were talking about where you had sex. I will chime in here.
The somewhat unusual places I have made whoopie are elevator, airplane, stairwell,
Vizcaya gardens (tourist spot), ocean both in a boat and not in a boat, moving car,
and not on a moptorcycle but it was used as a brace for my partner.
The moving car was very cool (on an expressway doing 60 to 70 mph)
the riskiest was Vizcaya when the tour group walked very close by.
I have ;left out some others that are mundane in comparison.
Next topic should be kinky sexcapades.
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luvobama says:
“Never!!! Didn’t you hear Oprah? She said, “Ladies, if you don’t want pictures of you naked on the internet, don’t let anyone take them!!!”
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Again, let me repeat my call for the admins to divide this site into pages by category. We can have categories for news, opinion, chatter, and now, wingnut porn.
Technically impossible with this layout. This configuration is not made for a really serious blog. It is made more for a single person writing on his or her own blog.
I just read the crawl at the bottom of MSNBC. It read “Lawmakers in Alaska have passed a resolution declaring that Washington owes Sen. Ted Stevens an apology.”
What do they mean “Washington” owes him an apology? George Washington?
Gene Washington, the guy who dropped a hammer on the Senator’s floor and cracked a floor tile while doing illegal remodelling work on the Senoators house.
“Washington” (read: the Bush DOJ) owes all taxpayers an apology for fucking up the Stevens case so badly. Glad to see that Holder appointed a new head of ethics at Justice yesterday. That department needs a thorough housecleaning.
Has nothing to do with the fact that Stevens was guilty as hell. He should be happy that he’s getting off as lightly as he is and STFU.
He should shut the hell up and enjoy his old age in his luxury home and grill up some fucking seal steaks, or whatever the hell they eat, on that thousands-of-dollars grill. Oh, and spend some time looking at his goddamn $27K fish sculpture.
I’m a Texas firefighter who pukes every time the right tries this type of bullshit.
Oh yeah, for those who have read My American Dream, I corrected the LARGE hole I left in it on same-sex unions (I don’t think the government should sanction any marriage, but should sanction unions between gays and straights equally). I’ve added a few other things I needed to say, too.
99% of them are great guys. I can only imagine having a job where everyone was happy to see you. Without exception. Now my brother is a cop. Not everyone is happy to see him.
What kind of schedule are you guys on? We just changed to a 2X4. It has cut back on commute time by more than half. It’s great for the younger guys who can’t afford to live in our city.
True story – a couple of years ago we were having a cocktail party at work and I was enjoying some lovely red wine and holding court (chatting up everyone). The CFO (my boss – heh) offers me a refill (my third – hic!) and we’re chatting about this and that when I realized I had to finish up an analysis for him, so I excused myself, filled the glass back up and told him I was going to work on his report. He was amused, such a nice man
You need to work for Dallas Fire Rescue. They tell us when we can start and stop drinking off duty and are trying to tell us what off-duty job we can or cannot have.
Can’t the world just change thousands of years of tradition to make things easier for the .0001% of the world in Redneckistan? What is the problem here, people?
What is wrong with these people? I worked with a Chinese woman at my last job who went by the name “Gloria,” although her real name was “Fen-Fen.” Apparently, from what she said, it’s pretty common for Chinese people to take an English name for everyday use when they come to America, but it doesn’t change their legal name.
What on Earth that has to do with voting, I have no idea. It’s no more confusing than Cousin Bubba, whose legal name is Raymond, or whatever. But wingnuts will grasp onto anything to try to create confusion at the polls and deny minorities the right to vote. And they say it’s not racially motivated.
I work with people from all over the world and most go by a name they picked when they came to America to make it easier for us. However, ironically, saying my given name is actually difficult for people to learn to say because of the combination of letters and how it’s pronounced in English. Children usually can’t say my name until they’re 3 or 4.
We did this to Native Americans too when we ripped them from their families, put them in orphanages and suppressed their language and culture. It’s a stupid and cruel idea.
I saw this ad on TV yesterday…it’s pretty much the same type of thing the wingnuts were running during the Prop 8 battle. Makes no rational sense at all, but it plays on some people’s fears, I guess.
The general argument of the ad is that the push for marriage equality isn’t just about rights for same-sex couples, it’s about imposing contrary values on people of faith. The examples they cite in the ad are:
(1) A California doctor who must choose between her faith and her job
(2) A member of New Jersey church group which is punished by the state because they can’t support same-sex marriage
(3) A Massachusetts parent who stands by helpless while the state teaches her son that gay marriage is okay
The facts indicate that (1) refers to the Benitez decision in California, determining that a doctor cannot violate California anti-discrimination law by refusing to treat a lesbian based on religious belief, (2) refers to the Ocean Grove, New Jersey Methodist pavilion that was open to the general public for events but refused access for civil union ceremonies (and was fined by the state for doing so) and (3) refers to the Parker decision in Massachusetts, where parents unsuccessfully sought to end public school discussions of family diversity, including of same-sex couples.
All three examples involve religious people who enter the public sphere, but don’t want to abide by the general non-discriminatory rules everyone else does. Both (1) and (2) are really about state laws against sexual orientation discrimination, rather than specifically about marriage. And (3) is about two pairs of religious parents trying to impose their beliefs on all children in public schools.
The real facts of each case are:
The California doctor entered a profession that promises to “first, do no harm” and the law requires her to treat a patient in need – gay or straight, Christian or Muslim – regardless of her religious beliefs. The law does not, and cannot, dictate her faith – it can only insist that she follow her oath as a medical professional.
* The New Jersey church group runs, and profits from, a beachside pavilion that it rents out to the general public for all manner of occasions –concerts, debates and even Civil War reenactments— but balks at permitting couples to hold civil union ceremonies there. The law does not challenge the church organization’s beliefs about homosexuality – it merely requires that a pavilion that had been open to all for years comply with laws protecting everyone from discrimination, including gays and lesbians.
* The Massachusetts parent disagrees with an aspect of her son’s public education, a discussion of the many different kinds of families he will likely encounter in life, including gay and lesbian couples. The law does not stop her from disagreeing, from teaching him consistently with her differing beliefs at home, or even educating her child in a setting that is more in line with her faith traditions. But it does not allow any one parent to dictate the curriculum for all students based on her family’s religious traditions.
I did. I don’t know why I torture myself that way. Having this site, has made going over there a rare occurence. Most of the time I just read the moronic posts, but I seldom post.
I picked that guy up in my fantasy league for his start yesterday. I saw the news when I was reading through injury reports this morning. You expect to see “Adenhart pitched a great game, but pulled a hammy in the 6th,” or something like that.
These people, spend far too much time, thinking about other people doing it. They certainly don’t think of gay marriage having the same issues as straights. You know, kids, sharing space, ideas in laws, out laws, paying bills, sharing chores etc. You’d think gay people never got out of bed for god’s sake. I personally think they all have filthy minds. Not dirty minds like me. Filthy minds.
I don’t like any of it, but especially the “Rainbow Coalition” phrase they keep throwing around, which is (was)? actually a religious and social development organization led by Jesse Jackson.
She chooses to be hetro and she chooses to be a doctor and she chooses to go to church. Her life is full of choices and everyone be damned if they want to make their own choices too!
I was listening to the Stephanie Miller show this morning and they ripped this ad to shreds and spent the rest of the morning mocking it every which way. They even played some of the rejected audition tapes. That whole ad is lie on every level and I hope that those people learn real love and real humility while they’re at it.
The only liberal talk station in Miami went all sports last week
No more waking up to Rachel Maddow, followed by Stefanie Miller, and then my favorite Thom Hartmann.
Make sure he gets one of those eye exams first with those drops and then surprise him with nude revue, then tell him later he owes you for being so nice to him.
How exactly does the California doctor have to choose between her faith and her job? And what does it have to do with same-sex marriage? Doctors don’t perform marriages.
And what is this nonsense about schools teaching students that gay marriage is OK? I don’t remember learning about marriage of any kind when I was in school. That was the kind of thing my parents taught me about, not my teachers.
There are some rules against the false advertising of products and services… because the ad is just opinion there are no ways to stop it from showing, the same applies to political ads…
Really? That’s how it should be. Here, we have this little wrinkle called the First Amendment that people use to justify all kinds of dishonest, hateful, and malicious speech. It’s a challenge.
I have a feeling that the “doctor” in the ad might be saying that because of her religion she believes that being gay is wrong and wouldn’t want to be “forced” to treat patients who are gay….
That was the same nonsense that happened when Bush made it okay for doctors and pharmacists to deny birth control because it went against their religious beliefs…
Still, that has nothing to do with marriage. If she thought her faith would conflict with her job, she never should have become a doctor in the first place.
All lies. All designed to cover up the real reason why these people don’t want same-sex marriage, which is that they’re bigots.
Here in Iowa, right-wingers are trying to change the state’s residency laws to make it illegal for non-residents of Iowa to get married in Iowa. They’re doing it because they’re afraid that there will be an influx of gay couples into the state to get married. That’s the real reason they don’t want same-sex marriage. They just don’t want to live around gay people.
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Ellie Mae is so stoopid, a corporation of the same name puts a disclaimer on their web homepage.
And we’ve graduated to full frontal nudity of male soccer stars. Pretty soon we’ll posting such of ourselves– When this site enters its “Caligula” phase.
Some people will do anything for money.
What whores….especially the brunette with the breathy voice.
How does this affect their lives? Maybe by giving them something to focus on it actually gives meaning to their stale, paltry, hypocritical, existentially bankrupt, closet home o’sexual lives.
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Hopefully people will see the insanity of this ad.
The second one wouldn’t play, maybe it’s been pulled by now.
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I noticed you all were talking about where you had sex. I will chime in here.
The somewhat unusual places I have made whoopie are elevator, airplane, stairwell,
Vizcaya gardens (tourist spot), ocean both in a boat and not in a boat, moving car,
and not on a moptorcycle but it was used as a brace for my partner.
The moving car was very cool (on an expressway doing 60 to 70 mph)
the riskiest was Vizcaya when the tour group walked very close by.
I have ;left out some others that are mundane in comparison.
Next topic should be kinky sexcapades.
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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Babs in 3…..2…..1….
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April 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
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Sorry..I just got home from work and have to read all then new post and comments…
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April 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
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So sorry to disappoint…I just got home from work and have to read all then new post and comments…
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FYI: Inspired by ZsaZsa’s parody of this ad, just created a new post above with my swing at a parody.
BTW, would be fun to make this a team sport from time to time and all who want join in and create their own.
Any takers this time?
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luvobama says:
“Never!!! Didn’t you hear Oprah? She said, “Ladies, if you don’t want pictures of you naked on the internet, don’t let anyone take them!!!”
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Someone should have told that bitchy Dr. Laura.
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/laura/
(You’ve been warned.)
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:01 am
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Oh thanks a lot…
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
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NAH!!!!
Are you sure?????
http://citizenceleb.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/drlaura.jpg
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
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Your photo is scarier
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
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Yikes. I can’t even go there. Blech!
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
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Well, according to the older pics, she’s not a natural blonde…..
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
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MY EYES!!!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am
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ROFL! I didn’t need to see that.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am
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You actually looked at it?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t fool me.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am
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LOL…how can you not look at a link that EP posts?
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
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Willpower baaaybeeeeee.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am
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My willpower for not looking is based on fear of seeing something I will never be able to unsee…
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:29 am
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Don’t look. Laura needs a lesson in hedge trimming.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
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*snicker*
can’t wait ’til i get home…..
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
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To be fair, those pics were supposedly taken in the ’70s.
Everything was more wild and woolly in those days
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
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What’s my excuse then? Oops! I’ve said too much
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
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LMAO….too funnee
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
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ROFL! I love you
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
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Must…not…click…link…
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
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ah-huh….LMAO
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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Ruh-roh.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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DAMMIT….’blocked paged’ at work
:grumbles….again!:
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
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Don’t worry; even though I’ve never seen you, I can guarantee that you’re way hotter than she is.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am
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Again, let me repeat my call for the admins to divide this site into pages by category. We can have categories for news, opinion, chatter, and now, wingnut porn.
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
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Technically impossible with this layout. This configuration is not made for a really serious blog. It is made more for a single person writing on his or her own blog.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
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I would kill myself, DEAD….wow.
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
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Is there a way to kill yourself, undead?
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April 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
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Someone get the hedgeclippers.
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OT, but…
I just read the crawl at the bottom of MSNBC. It read “Lawmakers in Alaska have passed a resolution declaring that Washington owes Sen. Ted Stevens an apology.”
What do they mean “Washington” owes him an apology? George Washington?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
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Gene Washington, the guy who dropped a hammer on the Senator’s floor and cracked a floor tile while doing illegal remodelling work on the Senoators house.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
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As a DC resident, I HATE it whenever that all inclusive word is used…I ain’t fucking apologizing to nobody!
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
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How do you think I feel as a Washington state resident?? WTF did WE do to Stevens?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
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“Washington” (read: the Bush DOJ) owes all taxpayers an apology for fucking up the Stevens case so badly. Glad to see that Holder appointed a new head of ethics at Justice yesterday. That department needs a thorough housecleaning.
Has nothing to do with the fact that Stevens was guilty as hell. He should be happy that he’s getting off as lightly as he is and STFU.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
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^^^WHAT HE SAID!!!!^^^
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
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The man is guilty. He doesn’t deserve an apology. He should be kissing the feet of Eric Holder for being so upstanding.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am
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He should shut the hell up and enjoy his old age in his luxury home and grill up some fucking seal steaks, or whatever the hell they eat, on that thousands-of-dollars grill. Oh, and spend some time looking at his goddamn $27K fish sculpture.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am
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*snicker*
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am
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I’m surprised the resolution didn’t specify “Warshington DEE cee.”
That’s how rightwingers pronounce it.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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Or Warshington, if you are McWalnuts (R – Himself).
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:09 am
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LOL…I have some kin who pronounce it that way. “We’re going to go warsh some dishes in the warter.”
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:29 am
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I have relatives in OH that say it more like “wush.”
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am
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“warshington….”
:groan:
*like fucking nails on a chalkboard*
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I’m a Texas firefighter who pukes every time the right tries this type of bullshit.
Oh yeah, for those who have read My American Dream, I corrected the LARGE hole I left in it on same-sex unions (I don’t think the government should sanction any marriage, but should sanction unions between gays and straights equally). I’ve added a few other things I needed to say, too.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
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Firefighters are
Living in CA really makes one appreciate you guys.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
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99% of them are great guys. I can only imagine having a job where everyone was happy to see you. Without exception. Now my brother is a cop. Not everyone is happy to see him.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am
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Not even some firefighters. Did you hear about the Dallas Fire Captain that was arrested, on duty, by a Dallas rookie cop at a traffic accident?
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am
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Seriously?
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
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Yep, big stink.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am
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My husband’s a firfighter too.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
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Excellent. Where’s he work?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
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Northern California. Just north of the Golden Gate Bridge.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
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Would he like to trade t-shirts? We don;t have patches anymore.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:04 am
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Sure. he does it all the time. Whenever i’m in a new town, I try to trade t shirts. I’ll let you know when I have one.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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Excellent.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
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What kind of schedule are you guys on? We just changed to a 2X4. It has cut back on commute time by more than half. It’s great for the younger guys who can’t afford to live in our city.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:01 am
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We’re on 24hr and off 48hr.
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*** I’m Out ***
Can’t watch golf for long before heading out to play so … i’m going to.
Have a great day everyone!
Pixie … call me today around happy hour and we’ll go over our interview.
Thanks … CW
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
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Will do – but you’ll have to have some Stoli without me since they don’t approve of me starting the cocktail hours at work
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
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The hell you say?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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What kind of monsters do you work for?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
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The booze hoarding kind LOL
True story – a couple of years ago we were having a cocktail party at work and I was enjoying some lovely red wine and holding court (chatting up everyone). The CFO (my boss – heh) offers me a refill (my third – hic!) and we’re chatting about this and that when I realized I had to finish up an analysis for him, so I excused myself, filled the glass back up and told him I was going to work on his report. He was amused, such a nice man
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am
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Heathens!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
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You need to work for Dallas Fire Rescue. They tell us when we can start and stop drinking off duty and are trying to tell us what off-duty job we can or cannot have.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
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Everyone in our department knows I smoke pot, but they all think my hsband doesn’t. Playing the game.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
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We get tested so much that no one sane will try to smoke. It’s a joke among us that when we retire we’re going to have a joint in our hands 24/7.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am
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Here, they can’t test you unless you have an accident on duty. Are you guys union?
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
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No, right to work state.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
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There’s your problem!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:21 am
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Yet another Republican name that means the opposite of how it sounds. “Right to work” = no right to unionize.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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If I’m not mistaken, it wasn’t so long ago that San Francisco had wet fire houses.
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I’ll link to my response ad again, for those who just showed up.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090409121110790
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am
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Well done!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
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Cool!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am
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Go down the thread….. you’ve got some s’plainin” to do……..
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
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If you’re referring to the motorcycle, no I never did. But if you have anything in mind…….
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
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No, read right to the bottom….. 2 diff threads, you get a mention…..;-)
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
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Aha….
Can’t help braggin’ on sunshine and, as far as Babs goes, what can I say…. She’s just too hot!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
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That was very well done!!! Send it to everyone you can
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
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Very well written.
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THE CONSERVATIVES ARE COMING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gX0lx11zxk&feature=PlayList&p=2F8D8D47 A78A937B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=22
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am
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They are going to force my children to learn about Friedmanomics in school!!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
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They’re not coming. They are just breathing hard.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:59 am
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heh
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Off topic, but in the theme of bigotry and stupidity; I offer this up for your perusal… (from The Daily Kos)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6365320.html
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am
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And they wonder why their party is dying.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
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Let them keep wondering … it’s working out just fine.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
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They do more damage to themselves then we ever could…
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
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I would suggest she change her name to Betty Bitch so we can identify her more easily.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:19 am
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Seconded.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
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Can’t the world just change thousands of years of tradition to make things easier for the .0001% of the world in Redneckistan? What is the problem here, people?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
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Redneckistan….. I like that! Is it PD or do I have to send you a dime every time I use it?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
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I believe in sharing. Please use it freely and enjoy.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
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What is wrong with these people? I worked with a Chinese woman at my last job who went by the name “Gloria,” although her real name was “Fen-Fen.” Apparently, from what she said, it’s pretty common for Chinese people to take an English name for everyday use when they come to America, but it doesn’t change their legal name.
What on Earth that has to do with voting, I have no idea. It’s no more confusing than Cousin Bubba, whose legal name is Raymond, or whatever. But wingnuts will grasp onto anything to try to create confusion at the polls and deny minorities the right to vote. And they say it’s not racially motivated.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
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I work with people from all over the world and most go by a name they picked when they came to America to make it easier for us. However, ironically, saying my given name is actually difficult for people to learn to say because of the combination of letters and how it’s pronounced in English. Children usually can’t say my name until they’re 3 or 4.
We did this to Native Americans too when we ripped them from their families, put them in orphanages and suppressed their language and culture. It’s a stupid and cruel idea.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am
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You said it, babe.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
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I saw that this morning. Unbelievable.
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I saw this ad on TV yesterday…it’s pretty much the same type of thing the wingnuts were running during the Prop 8 battle. Makes no rational sense at all, but it plays on some people’s fears, I guess.
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Where did they get that suckie green background for the audition? It’s the same color used for John McCain used during the primary………..
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
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it’s a “green screen” – need to google it cause I have to run and go pee right now
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am
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Thanks for sharing.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:20 am
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And that’s not change we can believe in…heh heh heh…
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I’ll leave the rational discussion to those of you that have degrees. Only thing I can say about this is….. “FUCK OFF, NAZI BASTARDS”
By Jove, I needed that.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am
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Well fucking said!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
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I fucking agree!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:20 am
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Absofuckinlutely!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
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effin right!….still have problems with that word…working on it
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
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All of you are offending my goddamn sensibilities.
Why the hell would you pull shit like that?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:57 am
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LMAO…u crack me UP! Your a gem in disguise as a Titan. But I like BOTH roles.
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April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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:fuckingprude:
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Background Ad Rebuttal
“The Real Truth Behind the Fake Ad”
The general argument of the ad is that the push for marriage equality isn’t just about rights for same-sex couples, it’s about imposing contrary values on people of faith. The examples they cite in the ad are:
(1) A California doctor who must choose between her faith and her job
(2) A member of New Jersey church group which is punished by the state because they can’t support same-sex marriage
(3) A Massachusetts parent who stands by helpless while the state teaches her son that gay marriage is okay
The facts indicate that (1) refers to the Benitez decision in California, determining that a doctor cannot violate California anti-discrimination law by refusing to treat a lesbian based on religious belief, (2) refers to the Ocean Grove, New Jersey Methodist pavilion that was open to the general public for events but refused access for civil union ceremonies (and was fined by the state for doing so) and (3) refers to the Parker decision in Massachusetts, where parents unsuccessfully sought to end public school discussions of family diversity, including of same-sex couples.
All three examples involve religious people who enter the public sphere, but don’t want to abide by the general non-discriminatory rules everyone else does. Both (1) and (2) are really about state laws against sexual orientation discrimination, rather than specifically about marriage. And (3) is about two pairs of religious parents trying to impose their beliefs on all children in public schools.
The real facts of each case are:
The California doctor entered a profession that promises to “first, do no harm” and the law requires her to treat a patient in need – gay or straight, Christian or Muslim – regardless of her religious beliefs. The law does not, and cannot, dictate her faith – it can only insist that she follow her oath as a medical professional.
* The New Jersey church group runs, and profits from, a beachside pavilion that it rents out to the general public for all manner of occasions –concerts, debates and even Civil War reenactments— but balks at permitting couples to hold civil union ceremonies there. The law does not challenge the church organization’s beliefs about homosexuality – it merely requires that a pavilion that had been open to all for years comply with laws protecting everyone from discrimination, including gays and lesbians.
* The Massachusetts parent disagrees with an aspect of her son’s public education, a discussion of the many different kinds of families he will likely encounter in life, including gay and lesbian couples. The law does not stop her from disagreeing, from teaching him consistently with her differing beliefs at home, or even educating her child in a setting that is more in line with her faith traditions. But it does not allow any one parent to dictate the curriculum for all students based on her family’s religious traditions.
http://www.hrc.org/12470.htm
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:55 am
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Those people are whack jobs. I am always surprised by how many jack asses we have in our midst.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
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yeah..just go over to HP and read the comments about piracy on the main!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:01 am
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I did. I don’t know why I torture myself that way. Having this site, has made going over there a rare occurence. Most of the time I just read the moronic posts, but I seldom post.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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I know..it’s like the car wreck on the side of the road syndrome.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am
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If obama didnt use a teleprompter there would be no piracy.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
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Thanks. My first lol of the day!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
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ROFL!
Perhaps, if someone sent a pair of teleprompters to N.-Korea’s Kim-Jong-Il, he wouldn’t have to build missiles and nukes out of sheer boredom, too…?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
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LOLZ
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
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Thank you for that, Babs.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
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Nice comment, Babs. Nice piece of research, too.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
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Well, at least I got some research done at work today!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am
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WELL DONE BABS! Thank you for this, very enlightening! I love it when you guys get all facty. LOVE IT!
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*** Off Topic (like always) ***
What a great week for sports nuts …
Beginning of the week the NCAA Basketball Championship game and today … the beginning of The Masters golf tournament.
Doesn’t get any better than this …
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
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Go Tiger!!! He makes golf on TV exciting!! Now that is really something!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am
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Plus, he’s easy on the eyes. Love Tiger! Go TW
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
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Has he gotten more ripped or is it just me? I swear his arms are bigger than last year.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
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hmmm don’t know…I vould like to investigae dis futher!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
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Ohyesitdoes!
A full, long weekend full of motorsports! Yippeeeeee!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
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Right turn right turn right turn right turn
humjmmm
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
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I competed in motorcycle-races myself for a few years, CW.
That’s a thrill bar none, I can assure you!
On a good day, motorcycle-racing is better than sex!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
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I have never motorcycle raced, but I am going to disagree 100%. Respectfully, of course.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am
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Have you ever had sex on a motorcycle???
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
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No. But I have in the bed of a truck, a hammock and a trampoline. Oh, and on the 405 in Los Angeles.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am
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With whom and when? Details, please!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:32 am
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husband, husband, husband and husband. We have a lot of kids. We have to be creative.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:37 am
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You’ve had 4 husbands!?!?!?!?!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am
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I can’t respond under your post Babs, so I am going to here. I have one husband, although I sometimes think he had multiple personalities.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am
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Got piccies?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
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You’re my kinda gal, scouser!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
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I want to know about the trampoline….. were they actually trampolining when they were playing ladies and gentlemen,…..???
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
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Use your imagination, Scouser.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
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Never!!! Didn’t you hear Oprah? She said, “Ladies, if you don’t want pictures of you naked on the internet, don’t let anyone take them!!!”
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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LOL…sound advice.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
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Finally. Something to do while stuck on the 405.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
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zactly.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
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From you, this opinion is accepted (while not shared) with all due respect, Mylady.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
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Okay. Who in the hell are you having sex with?
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:18 am
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Women…
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
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“On a good day, motorcycle-racing is better than sex! ”
Hummmmmmm
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
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Not true.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
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And DON’T dare question my sexlife, buddy. I know some things about sex you don’t know…
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
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“I know some things about sex you don’t know…”
And don’t want to man
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
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proof…LINK!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
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It’s also a tragic week for sports!
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-angels-pitcherkilled&prov=ap& type=lgns
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:59 am
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I saw that … awful!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:03 am
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And I’m sorry, I wasn’t trying to rain on your parade, I’m just kind of weepy over the news!
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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I picked that guy up in my fantasy league for his start yesterday. I saw the news when I was reading through injury reports this morning. You expect to see “Adenhart pitched a great game, but pulled a hammy in the 6th,” or something like that.
Poor kid…he had a great future ahead of him.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am
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Sure did.
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am
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I read that this morning and cried. He was a baby. 22 years old. Yikes.
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You all look fabulous … just fabulous
And remember my babies … it’s much more important to look good than to feel good!
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These people, spend far too much time, thinking about other people doing it. They certainly don’t think of gay marriage having the same issues as straights. You know, kids, sharing space, ideas in laws, out laws, paying bills, sharing chores etc. You’d think gay people never got out of bed for god’s sake. I personally think they all have filthy minds. Not dirty minds like me. Filthy minds.
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I don’t like any of it, but especially the “Rainbow Coalition” phrase they keep throwing around, which is (was)? actually a religious and social development organization led by Jesse Jackson.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
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I’ll bet the irony of using that phrasing is lost on those bigots.
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How would gay marriage make a California doctor choose between her job and her faith? I don’t get it.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
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Neither does the doctor.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
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She chooses to be hetro and she chooses to be a doctor and she chooses to go to church. Her life is full of choices and everyone be damned if they want to make their own choices too!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:35 am
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That aint no doctor.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
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Soap opera wannabe.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
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I’m not a doctor, but I play one on a really offensive ad….
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
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Who doesn’t like to play doctor? I just adore being the patient. Heavy sigh.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:35 am
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I think they’re speaking in code, or something. Maybe.
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Oh my fuckin God, oh my fuckin God! The gays are coming, the gays are coming!!!
Hide the children!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:35 am
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Hurray! Now we can look fabu!!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
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Ah christ … next will be the juuuuuuuuus
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HEY EVERYBODY!!!
I decided to make my own ad in response to this “Gathering Storm” ad. It’s called “Gathering Storm of Bigotry.”
If you like what you see, maybe we can add it to the thread. I’d make my own thread, but I’m not listed as an author.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
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Wait, what the hell happened to my link?
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090409121110790
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
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Good Job! I Like.
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I was listening to the Stephanie Miller show this morning and they ripped this ad to shreds and spent the rest of the morning mocking it every which way. They even played some of the rejected audition tapes. That whole ad is lie on every level and I hope that those people learn real love and real humility while they’re at it.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
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“I hope that those people learn real love and real humility”
you’re sooooo sweet!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am
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Yes, I’m freakishly sweet
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:29 am
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The only liberal talk station in Miami went all sports last week
No more waking up to Rachel Maddow, followed by Stefanie Miller, and then my favorite Thom Hartmann.
This really sucks!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:33 am
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Online, baby, online! Try to get podcasts or whatever! I would be upset if I didn’t have options too!!
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Absolutely a must on anyone’s Vegas to-do list :
“Nudes on Ice”
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
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Heh. I’m 41. Do I need my husband looking at young high boobies???
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:56 am
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Who said they’re women? OK, so they are women.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
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Totally Joking. He can’t look at whatever he wants. Where is that show?
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:58 am
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haha. freudian slip.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:03 am
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Make sure he gets one of those eye exams first with those drops and then surprise him with nude revue, then tell him later he owes you for being so nice to him.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
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sure it was, sure.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
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puhleeze. i couldn’t care less.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
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It will give you loftier heights to aspire to!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
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Can you introduce me to Dr Rey???
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
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Well!
I’m sure I wouldn’t know!
ROBERT M. REY, M.D., M.P.P.
436 North Bedford Drive, Suite 304
Beverly Hills, California 90210
TEL: (310) 205-3107
FAX: (310) 205-8822
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am
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Heading over to the Venetian tomorrow night.
The first time there I didn’t realize the sky over the gondola area was fake.
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:33 am
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LOL! You’re kidding right?
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am
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And … it was midnight (and well after a few).
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
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Have you seen it? The clouds move …
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am
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I’ve seen it several times. Are you sure?
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:47 am
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Yeah!
The clouds move across the sky …
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:50 am
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hmmm. I’ll go check it out again. But if you are messing with me….
to the moon alice!!!!
ps. So that wasn’t a pic of you on your blog?
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
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nope
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April 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
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your kiddin’ me. I thought that young kid was u. Whose the kid?
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How exactly does the California doctor have to choose between her faith and her job? And what does it have to do with same-sex marriage? Doctors don’t perform marriages.
And what is this nonsense about schools teaching students that gay marriage is OK? I don’t remember learning about marriage of any kind when I was in school. That was the kind of thing my parents taught me about, not my teachers.
These are all just flimsy, transparent lies.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:19 am
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Why isn’t lying in advertisements explicitly banned in the States?
Here in Europe, you’ll get charged and fined for lying in advertisements faster than you can say “Thank you, Sir!”…!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
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There are some rules against the false advertising of products and services… because the ad is just opinion there are no ways to stop it from showing, the same applies to political ads…
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:37 am
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But aren’t they lying about being doctors, parents from specific states?? Etc etc.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
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Free speech!! Opinions. Freedom of expression. Which sometimes is worse than repression. Damn that Freud!!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
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Okay –
Then I’ll raise them a “FUCK DICK CHENEY!”
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:41 am
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New word for a chaotically immoral situation;
“I don’t know man, like it was a total Cheney Dick Fuck!”
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am
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ROFL!
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
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Really? That’s how it should be. Here, we have this little wrinkle called the First Amendment that people use to justify all kinds of dishonest, hateful, and malicious speech. It’s a challenge.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:25 am
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I have a feeling that the “doctor” in the ad might be saying that because of her religion she believes that being gay is wrong and wouldn’t want to be “forced” to treat patients who are gay….
That was the same nonsense that happened when Bush made it okay for doctors and pharmacists to deny birth control because it went against their religious beliefs…
It is all complete bullshit if you ask me….
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
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Still, that has nothing to do with marriage. If she thought her faith would conflict with her job, she never should have become a doctor in the first place.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:41 am
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Or, rather, a witch-doctor, perhaps…
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am
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I know it has nothing to do with marriage…. the whole ad has absolutely nothing to do with reality at all…
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:51 am
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Yup.
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…yet look at who these same people supported for President.
A man who divorced his crippled first wife in order to marry a beer heiress whose money comes from her father’s Mafia ties.
They also had no problem with St. Ronnie ditching Jane Wyman for Nancy Davis.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:15 am
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Hi, EXP.
And don’t forget the almost-VP-mother of an unmarried, school-dropout, non-abstinent teenage-mom.
Hypocrisy, thy name be Republican Party…
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Perfect! What was once a good post is now a great post. Once again : Collaboration!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:16 am
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We are ALL guilty of collaboration against the enemy as charged, Questinia…!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
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So true Mogambo! I do believe it creates loyalty between the collaborators, no?
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
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Hush, Questinia!
We ARE the underground!
We ARE those people our parents have always warned us against!
Hush!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
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Good plot line for the novel….
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All lies. All designed to cover up the real reason why these people don’t want same-sex marriage, which is that they’re bigots.
Here in Iowa, right-wingers are trying to change the state’s residency laws to make it illegal for non-residents of Iowa to get married in Iowa. They’re doing it because they’re afraid that there will be an influx of gay couples into the state to get married. That’s the real reason they don’t want same-sex marriage. They just don’t want to live around gay people.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am
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Or, rather, thay know that gay people / couples will NEVER vote Republican.
So, banning gay marriage in Iowa means tuning the electorate to their favor, ZsaZsa.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
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Unfortunately, there are gays who vote Republican.
Log Cabin Republicans is their national organization.
A bigger collection of self-hating nuts you have never seen.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
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Duh!
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“Those advocates want to change the way *I* live.”
REALLY? HOW?
How does someone else’s marriage affect the way YOU live…. unless you wanted to marry one of the spouses?
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:11 am
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Maybe they’re talking about bestiality???
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:19 am
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Hey Lady.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:26 am
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Where are you??? Did you hit the jackpot?
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:31 am
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We’re here in Vegas. Lemme at those slot machines!
Did I miss any fun stuff here???? Any goodbye rants??
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
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You missed this:
Ellis Wyatt Interactive
*Note about The Huffington Post – The “Ellis Wyatt” poster on the Huffington P.ost website has NO AFFILIATION with Ellis Wyatt Interactive. We may or may not agree with some of this poster’s philosophies and comments but we are not affiliated.
http://www.elliswyatt.com/
Ellie Mae is so stoopid, a corporation of the same name puts a disclaimer on their web homepage.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:35 am
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Boah!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:35 am
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I posted that on the HP main the other night!
LMAO!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am
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HolycrapMarie! That’s priceless.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
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Onl a few slammed doors and stomping feet recently, Suzy.
Hi, dear!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:40 am
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Hiya Mog!
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
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How are you doing in Vegas, babe?
And how’s crime doing in Vegas lately? Have you met those CSI-geeks already?
(CSI Las Vegas is my favorite crime-series – the ONLY REAL CSI-series, if you ask me).
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:50 am
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I’m lounging and waiting for it to warm up enough to lay by the pool in my cow bikini. About to have tea. It’s not yet 9am here.
ps I like Criminal minds. It’s not CSI but it is a great show.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:51 am
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You’ve been getting very Indypete lately.
:snowed again this morning:
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
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“Criminal Minds” is cool, too – and “Numb3rs”.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
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no, just the usual sexual banter…
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
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And we’ve graduated to full frontal nudity of male soccer stars. Pretty soon we’ll posting such of ourselves– When this site enters its “Caligula” phase.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am
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May I hold your leash, my dear?
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:53 am
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Only if you provide the diamond-studded collar.
Oh oh I think we’re beginning to reach the “Caligula” phase.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:40 am
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link please???
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am
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It may have been on the Oh Christ post from kellygrrl last night
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:01 am
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Now that’s what I call hot. DearLord.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
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Babs is keeper of the “bend it like Beckham”
And you know what the “it” is.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:40 am
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Have you seen this one of indy and I ?
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:rDjovzPtV0whJM:http://www.dack.com /images/weblog/old-people-sex.jpg
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:41 am
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Of Indy and me, teacherlady.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:43 am
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of me and indy?
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am
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heehee
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:49 am
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Of Indy and YOU?
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Some people will do anything for money.
What whores….especially the brunette with the breathy voice.
How does this affect their lives? Maybe by giving them something to focus on it actually gives meaning to their stale, paltry, hypocritical, existentially bankrupt, closet home o’sexual lives.
:theend:
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:06 am
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here is a clip from the “Auditions”
bet it was tough for more than a few “actors” to choke out these lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRjVDZxho54&feature=player_embedded
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:09 am
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Thank the good spirits for Youtube. I think this one is going to facebook.
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:10 am
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You should have posted the video right along side the ad……Good catch………..
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
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Done
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April 9th, 2009 at 9:33 am
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That’s what I’m talking about, expose those phonies………..
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:14 am
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Funny! The young girl in the cardigan looks especially uncomfortable. Roberta is right, this vid should be posted along side.
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One woman stated she was afraid. Afraid of what? A forced marriage to another woman? WTF………..
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:03 am
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That she will be abducted like a Sabine and ferried off to the isle of Lesbos.
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:06 am
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she should pack light, I doubt she’ll be welcome there
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The Reps are desperately appealing to their base not to flee the colours – while this is apparently, what they are doing, actually.
This ad hadn’t been produced, if the situation wasn’t dire for them already.
The “Obama-surge” is working, folks…
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:07 am
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I think Groucho said it well on the radio yesterday:
“This Wedge is on Borrowed Time”
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WTF are they talking about???
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“If we don’t save marriage, we can’t remain pro-life,”- Rep. Steve King, (R-IA)
seriously, they are now trying to equate “Protecting Traditional Marriage” with abortion.
huh?
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:18 am
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To say nothing of the absurdity that you can somehow “save” marriage by denying it to some.
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April 9th, 2009 at 7:30 am
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Logic has never been required to make a right-wing argument popular w the right-wing public.
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