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I am going to attend a “teabag” protest in a mid-sized town just north of Seattle. I am not attending the one in Seattle simply because I would be in rush-hour traffic on the way home. (This story isn’t really worth that aggravation).
I am going to take my camera, notepad and my mini-recorder and be a reporter for FreeRangeTalk.
The group in Seattle, according to their facebook page, are a global network. Yeah, right, like people in Europe and Asia give a rat’s ass about America’s tax code. (I only mention this to show how stupid these people are and the group I am going to be interviewing doesn’t have a facebook page and their web site is devoid of any actual information).
I am soliciting suggestions from you people as to what questions I should be asking them. Here are the questions I have thought up so far:
After asking them their names, where are you from, things like that, I will go into these questions. If there is someone holding a “down with socialism” sign, I am going to ask that person if they are going to participate in the biggest socialist programs of all, Social Security and Medicare, when they retire. I am also going to ask some of them why they are protesting tax policies that are going to cut their own taxes. After explaining to them that in 1773, the people that threw the tea into Boston harbor were protesting taxation without representation, and since we are now represented, do you realize you woul have been on the side of the British?
The questions need to sound somewhat legitimate, and yet have the effect of educating these people to a) how stupid they are being, and b) how they are protesting a tax plan that is going to directly benefit them and their families. Hopefully, if they are smart enough, the will realize how wrong they are in what they are doing.
So, give me your ideas of what questions I should be asking and then tomorrow or the next day, I will post the answers, (if they actually answer the questions), and pictures of the tens of protesters there are at the event.
Thanks
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I wonder if these demonstrations will amount to anything or just be a bust. So far, today, I haven’t seen much action.
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Just don’t get them started on NASCAR, or your hair will turn white before you manage to extract yourself from the conversation.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
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I am going to be wearing a NASCAR hat with my hair tucked up into it.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
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that’s great! hee hee
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
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As they say in the south…”You ask that boy the time of day and he’ll tell you how to build a watch.” Oy.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
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My aunt was out on Daily Kos the other day and quoted someone saying that “…if brains were leather, she wouldn’t have enough to saddle a junebug, bless her heart.”
She was referring to that lunatic Bachmann.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
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I just refer to her as Frau Bachmann.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
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I always heard about Southern women: “Ask they a question and they’ll recite you a novel.”
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Meanwhile, Chef is busy preparing snacks for tomorrow’s teabagging festivities…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQEh7gKzZI&feature=related
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
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OMG!
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
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Do you suppose they will have sacks of Schweatty Balls for sale?
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
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I don’t think so. Aren’t Schweatty Balls endorsed by Alec Baldwin? LOL
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
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Ummmm…I’ll take a baker’s dozen, please!
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
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Chill…you wild man…you’re my hero.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
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ygm
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Chill, just remember your manners. These are probably people who keep thier pinkies extended while drinking thier Pabst, so they will not tolerate rudness.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
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I had to Google Pabst, had no idea they bottled Lone Star Beer, brought back memories of a trip I took to Texas swigging that stuff with my cousins and how it tasted more like piss than beer.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
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You should have been with me in my teen years when we use to swill Primer beer, 5 quarts for a $1………………
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
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That’s teen cheap. Primer? Is that like another state’s version of Lone Star?
Btw, ygm.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
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K
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
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If you don’t know Pabst, you wouldn’t know Old Style either.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
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And offer them a clean doily upon which to dab their lips after imbibing their brew.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
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Pabst? Isn’t it more like the white can with black letters that say… “Beer”?
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
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Now THAT made me laugh, and that’s not easy. Damn, I should have thought of that!
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
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I had a slight advantage of actually watching “Repo Man” the other day…. that is why I thought of it…
Glad I made you giggle though!
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
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Old Milwaukee was some good cheap shit.
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April 14th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
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Rainier Beer……
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Please ask them:
What’s your IQ?
Do you read anything except the bible?
What planet have you been living on the past 8 years?
Oh wait….you were serious.
Sorry. I’d stay away from those people. You are braver than I am.
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make sure you carry a Grande Coffee Latte
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
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And a arugula salad for lunch…
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so Starbucks will or will not be serving COFFEE tomorrow?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
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I wonder if Morning Shmoe will be drinking tea.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
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Oh, I’ll bet he will.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
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He was being especially jerky this morning…
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
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And the rest of the losers, Mika, Willie, Pat and the guy who’s wife works for Bank of America………………
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
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Huh?
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Here’s what I’m wondering on this eve of teabagging day.
Since people like Gingrich, Armey, and Boehner, and Fox News, are rooting these teabaggers on, will the media make the Republicans own whatever is said and done at these events? If somebody wears a racist T-shirt, will the Repubs own that? If somebody starts talking about getting armed for the coming revolution, will the Repubs own that? If somebody shrieks about banning books, will the Repubs own that?
I remember Tim Russert once asking Obama about a comment Harry Belafonte made. If Obama has to answer for Harry Freaking Belafonte, shouldn’t somebody in the media make these Republican instigators answer for the behavior of the teabaggers?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
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come on, now, Z — I think you know the answer to that question.
Our Media really does SUCK — at least 97% of them anyway
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
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Isn’t this new territory for Republicans, protesting? Great ideas zsazsa.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
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Guilt-by-association only happens if you’re a Democrat. Otherwise, Palin would have been made to answer for the words and actions of the yo-yos at her rallies.
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Well, let’s look at it this way – Lipton sales will increase.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
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Think of all those anti-oxidants!
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Apart from your good questions, you may want to warm them up with some non-specific questions that keep their heads open and less likely to fall back on some “message”, or defensive posture.
A few things off the top of my head
1) What is their plan to see this thing through? What are they going to do after the tea bag protest? Do they plan on continuing to organize? Who is going to organize them in the future? Are any of them going to take up the cause personally? How much a part of their lives are they planning to dedicate to this cause? Have they contacted their senator?
2) Few people want to seem ignorant on issues that trend positive so, ask them what concerns do they have for education, the environment, helping poor people? How will this protest help these issues ? Do they know what the organizers are going to do to address these issues, or what their positions are on these issues.?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
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I think if he asks them questions in the form of a paragraph like this, their heads will explode. Then we won’t get a choice soundbite.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
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Oh, not to be asked as a paragraph but like one would at a cocktail party….or should I say tea partay?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
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Those are also some good questions.
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Great idea chill, it oughta be a slice of life. One question I often shout at the teevee is “Where did deregulation get us?”
One tack I’ve found useful, if you’re comfortable with it, is opening with a question or statement that doesn’t put anyone on the defensive, and may even allow them to think you’re of like mind … just long enough to get the kind of revealing share that comes with a presumption of similar agenda. I’ve gotten some of my best quotes that way. Best to have a clean and clever plan of exit, though.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
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I agree. They need to feel relaxed and open enough so the foot goes in easily.
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Sorry, I’m late to the, er, party, so forgive me for going back on topic and ruining everyone’s fun.
Chill, ask the attendees if they personally have skipped paying taxes in protest, and if they are prepared to go to jail for it. Let’s see who puts their money where their mouth is.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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You are forgiven.
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Kevenseven does quite a job responding to the idiocy on HP….should he be an invitee over here?…..comments?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
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he’s here…just not right now
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
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cool!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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And he never wears pants here either…
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
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is that a seque back to teabags???
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
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Lets have our own teabagging party
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
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Why waste perfectly good tea?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
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I don’t think teabags are actually involved in his kind of teabagging.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
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I figured that. I was being intentionally obtuse.
I think my DH would be upset at my teabagging others.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
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Let me hop into the pickup and I’ll be right over!
http://www.tonycordova.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tea-bag-truck.jp g
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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Talk about a ‘nasty cut’……
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
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Does it have power windows? (not sure if this will come through…)
Power_Windows.wmv
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
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Well, obviously not! Hmm. I’ll have to work on that..
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Since we are way the hell off topic here.
Let me throw in my two cents worth.
Some people write posts to get a positive reaction from people and when they don’t get that reaction they become upset. A lot of people don’t post because the posts they have put up have gotten very few comments, or the comments have been off topic. One person even told me that they felt it was a sign of disrespect for people not to stay on topic on a thread.
Here is my opinion on that, and the way that I post. I post things that I am interested in, and have a passion about, (mostly, a couple of times I have posted things that were just silly). If there a few comments on it, or they are all off topic, well I really don’t care because I posted it for me, not for you.
I am not saying that it isn’t great to get nice comments and approval from people, but that is not my driving force for posting and is only secondary to my reasons.
I don’t see it as a sign of disrespect, or even a bad thing for people to be off topic, or snarky or whatever. One of the founding principles for FRT was a moderation-free atmosphere. And just like it is out in the real world, when you have freedoms, you are not going to like what certain people do with those freedoms. But would you rather there be censorship so that you aren’t offended? Not me. I take the good (freedom), with the bad, (assholes like Beck et al).
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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WILD APPLAUSE!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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I should add here, that people that post for reasons of approval are going to be disappointed, a lot!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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especially if you go to the trouble to embed images!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
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Ferchristssake. It’s a blog, not full-blown group therapy.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
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We did have quite a group session this a.m.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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So I heard…….someone got their knickers in a real twist!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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Exactamundo.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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I know I get disappointed when not many respond to MY posts… {sniff}…but I don’t go all drama queen about it (expect maybe now…
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I post like you do – it’s stuff I like and want to share – the replies are gravy, really.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
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You got that right!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
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Yep, yep yep….. well said….
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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Good post. I think it’s a real interesting phenomena — we’re entering this new era of communication – we’re “meeting” people over the internet, and making meaningful connections with them, and more often than not, we’ll never actually meet them in person. Perhaps this leads to a bigger investment on the part of the person who is trying to connect…. and perhaps feelings are more likely to be injured if the reaction is not what was expected or desired.
Or maybe I’m just reading too much into it!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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yes
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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I think you’re correct. It’s like the guy you might have once met on the subway who proceeds to tell you things that he wouldn’t tell his wife……there’s some comfort in the anonymity of the moment and the knowledge that the other person doesn’t really know you and probably won’t ever know you………anonymous sex without the sex!??!?!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
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Excellent MH! People are over invested in cyber-relationships. They may want something from here they aren’t getting from their non-virtual world but the same disappointments and resentments occur here. We are the idealized audience meant to respond to them in the way they fantasize.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
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I agree. And sometimes the comments don’t come precisely BECAUSE the post is so good. “Ditto” becomes about the best one can do, sometimes. And when you look at the comments and see that twenty other people have already dittoed, you tend to think, “oh, that one’s taken care of, let’s go see if I can stir up some trouble somewhere else!”
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
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Right. There are plenty of posts I read and enjoy, but don’t comment on – because I have nothing else to add.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
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Maybe I should make this a post instead of a comment. It sounds like there are some people that would benefit by reading it that might never see it as a comment.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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Go for it!!! PLEASE!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
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PLEASE!!! Go for it!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
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Babs seems to like that idea.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
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YES! PLEASE! DON’T STOP!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
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http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/Obama%20in%20cowboy%20 hat.jpg
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
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Smart and shexy … :sigh:.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
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Okay, I will post it late tonight, early tomorrow morning.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
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Mailed you a pic if you want a humorous one, chill, don’t know if it would suit, but I enjoy doing them.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
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Great idea chill, it’s a must-read.
And if there are any differing perspectives, we’ll be able to hear them as well.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
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I agree.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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To steal a line…
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DOITDOITDOITDOIT!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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But to have an entire thread scrubbed is unfair to those who commented, that’s censorship………Threads will go off topic, there is not much one can do about it. I have a problem with serious threads going off topic, but I’ve learned to live with it and when it happens I simply move on…………
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
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The author of the post chose to delete it unbeknownst to the commenters.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
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Yeah? And? Well! Humph! I’m rooting for Chill to fail, because he’s…..ummmm….errrr…ahhhh…did he mention long hair? (checks in mirror), never mind (reminder – get haircut)…errr…
Actually, good points all. I might like to see fewer actual serious conversations interrupted by trivia, but otherwise I was just seeing what it felt like to get “outraged” over ……whatever. How any times have I posted that we’re not always going to agree, and then, when people don’t agree, there has to be a villian, there has to be a scene? Let it go, fer cryin’ out loud. Seems like lately MOST people haven’t agreed with ME, but I’m gong to keep Posting (unless Chill took that first stuff serious, in that case…bye all
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Good luck on your “assignment” Chill, and you can still put photos on YouTube, youu just need to set them to music, and, maybe, overlay your narrative.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
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Very happy to see you here…
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
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Like I was going somewhere?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
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Never!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
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for me, there is ONE use for Drama Queens — Comedic Fodder
sorry! did I mention I was “of a certain age”
I have a hard time believing anyone who has been here for more than 3 minutes would be shocked to learn that we are a Raunchily Snarky Crowd
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I must be on auto-delete at HP – I can’t get even the most innocuous post to respond to the idiocy that is running amok over there – I didn’t even say “you fucking stupid son of a whore”……..oh, well, I’ll just consider my cheese to have moved…..
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
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The most worthwhile thing I saw over there was:
Geriatric Japanese Porn Star Shoots Last XXX Film At Age 75
and indy isn’t even here to comment on it.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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What did they call the film? Cumakazee?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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OK.. so I don’t miss indy now
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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there’s no fuck like an old fuck.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
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Takes one to know one!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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grrr
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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The main thread is flying by…perhaps you just don’t see the post?
Neo, Pronto, BeeJer, and CC2 are running their mouths off, as usual.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
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Perhaps. I just don’t have the patience to deal with that shit any more…..
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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Amen to that!
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Report: Country ripe for right-wing recruitment
By EILEEN SULLIVAN – 9 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Homeland Security officials are warning that right-wing extremists could use the bad state of the U.S. economy and the election of the country’s first black president to recruit new members to their cause.
In an intelligence assessment issued to law enforcement last week, Homeland Security officials said there was no specific information about an attack from right-wing extremists in the works.
The agency warns that an extended economic downturn with real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit could foster an environment for extremists to recruit new members who may not have been supportive of these causes in the past.
In November, law enforcement officials were seeing more threats and unusual interest against then- President-elect Barack Obama than ever before.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
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That – and the shit that I am reading on the HP thread – scares the shit out of me.
I have never seen anything like this. What the fuck is WRONG with these people?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
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Most everything
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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Let me count the ways…..
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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I told you…………….It’s nutsville over there….
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
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I was there for a while… and it was ugly. There was a tremendous amount of hatred and anger in the majority of the posts… Some of them sounded close to psychotic.
I get scrubbed and pended all the time for pretty innocent remarks ( sometimes I think “MsDoc” shows up and they put me automatic banishment )… but there, live and in color, was some fool posting about TCN and anal activities with a broom handle. AND I was the first flag.
I sent a scathing report ( quotes and all ) and he or it, was banned. But that trash was sitting there for quite a while. I have never figured out what the policy really is and now I don’t have to. Wheeeeee
Hi, Baba.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
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BABS …. there !!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
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No surprise there.
And of course, this is all spurred on by the right-wing lunatics in the media who are hoping Obama will fail and who are calling for revolution. I
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
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Sounds like treason to me
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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It’s not like they are gaining support from the left or the middle. They are just drawing from the same base that supported McCain and Palin. It’s not like they are getting new blood……….
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OT – I haven’t been here all day – WTF was all the drama with Abby this morning? I can’t make heads nor tails of it.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
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Oh no… again?
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
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still
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
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Apparently. I was reading the posts on “The Privilege of Free Speech” thread. Something about an apology post that wasn’t needed and was then scrubbed by Abby.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
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It was definitely not MY fault!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
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Just be thankful you missed three days of drama….
:stillbitingmytongue:
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
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I only knew about the drunk driving thread drama. Were there more?
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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Yes… there was….
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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She says ever so discreetly.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
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Jeez. Sorry I missed it then.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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Ah, glad I missed it….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
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ohmyohmyohmy…here kitty, kitty, kitty!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
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What thread?
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
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Abby deleted it cause “some people” got a little snarky……
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
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Now that’s power…………….
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
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You say tomato, I say tomatoe.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
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I read it on the “Free Speech” thread…the main thread they were discussing was scrubbed.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
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Deleted by the author…. the irony was so ironic….
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
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Word.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
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Second.
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One troll over on HP is talking about “lock and load” ……….WTF
I hope it’s worth it for AH in light of how she has allowed the trolls to run wild………….They are in complete meltdown…….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
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Do I dare go over there…..?
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
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Why not, some train wrecks are worth watching…………I just wonder how long you can last…………….Go for it!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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The trolls had pretty much complete control of that thread. I left about 15 minutes ago.. TCN was still swinging the sword but he was vastly outnumbered by the folks who still have outhouses.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
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YOU MADE IT!!!!!!!
Now someone will actually READ my posts on education!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
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I’ll read them too, Babs! I’ve just been swamped with work and home…. so haven’t been able to spend much time here….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
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I don’t do work at work or at home….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
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Well, that explains it.
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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truly…been there, done that!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
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We have missed you…
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
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And I’ve missed you guys!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
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So good to see you, mh!
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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Of course I will…with enthusiasm as well.
And we can bicker… like all good educators do..
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
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OOOh…I love enlightened discussions!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
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Yes, Hume and Streak are hanging tuff as well………..
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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I think they got there after I’d left. I ran out of both patience and flags to throw.
I’d like to see a thread here about that topic… If it’s real, it’s pretty scary.
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Chillinout, please let us know how many of these protesters are people of color. Why do I get the feeling these are the same people who attended McCan’t and Pailin rallies?
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
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:spitsoutjuice:
people of color???!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
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attending THIS event?????
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
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Maybe there will be a token. You never know, missy.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
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And risk being mobbed?
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
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Yeah a good tan does not count.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
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Damn…and they were hoping to count Boehner as a minority
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
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Spray on Oompa Loompa tans don’t count…
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
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white, sallow, or ashen???
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
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I don’t think there’s any doubt about that!! (same morons who were at the Unstable/Unable rallies). And all will be lily-white, I’ll betcha.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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crowd of thousands with teeth in the hundreds.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
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Heh. “We don’t need no stinkin’ socialized dental care!”
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April 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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A good theme for the Party of No would be to rewrite that Pink Floyd tune, or we could do it for them.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
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yup yup.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
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I’d also be interested in the gender/age breakdown.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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It will be “a rainbow coalition in all shades of white, from ivory to pink to eggshell”.
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Are any of you watching KO? And the spot on Faux News re: the teabaggers? CHRIST. These people.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
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I am. That joke of a News station is doing nothing but creating fodder for Stewart and Colbert.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
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Isn’t it something? It’s unbelievably irresponsible.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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I think I am more shocked by those so called journalists than I have ever been in my life. I would have never believed we would have this level of discourse in our country again. I am truly sickened, saddened and scared.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
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I agree. I really don’t understand how such crap gets labeled as “news.” Corporate power at work. We don’t have enough independent media outlets.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
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I was just trying to get to the computer to ask all of you that.
HOLY….These effing people are LOONEY-TUNES (no offense to the real LT’s, but “crazy’ doesn’t begin to cover it).
I thought Fixed Noise considered themselves to BE the MSM? Christ.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
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I about threw up when that blond chick (I use that term deliberately) asked, in astonishment, if the MSM would be _forced_ to cover the rallies!!! She about popped out of that tight-busty-blouse.
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Ask them why they are protesting the president’s tax cuts for the working and middle class
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How about this? It always works for me when starting out at a new site like freepers or redstate:
WHATUP HICKS????
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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Whatup Libbberal Commie!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
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Just exercising my capatalistic right to give my money to the mafia!! whatup with you????
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
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Just watchin’ that notorious pinkie Keith O.
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OK, so the trolls at Huffy have lost their minds. The main is about Homeland Security warning of Right Wing Extremists. There are troll nutters calling for armed insurrection on the thread. And making veiled threats against the president.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
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and THAT SHIT gets through?????!!!!
unFUCKINGbelievable!!!!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
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My sis arrived back at Ohare at midnight last night. 30 something and raining/snowing. Here’s to summer my girlfriend!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
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yeah, the weather sucks right now….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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Three days of cold rain… my personal fave.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
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Was it you who posted that I needed to shut up about the weather last Friday? (yes, I went back and read the entire open thread when I got home!) I wasn’t trying to brag :lookscontrite: but it had been a weird, rainy and mucky week until Friday, but I’m sorry the weather been so horrible in the mid!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
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It stinks. But high 60s expected on Friday in NE Indiana.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
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Second that.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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I just left, too…. It was getting kinda scary and the pure trash that was getting through the moderators really bothered me. I didn’t recognize most of the posters…. it was like someone turned over a garbage can lid and all the roaches came scuttling out.
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BTW folks, Keith is going to talk about the Tea Party –looks like the first story on tonight.
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If you run into any Trekkies, and you will (they never miss a rally), ask them what they think of the tax situation on Vulcan. Believe me, you’ll get an earful.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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If you want an earful you have to ask a Ferengi….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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:huh?:
:don’tknowshitaboutstartrek:
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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{passes kitty a clue}
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
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Beam me up, Scotty….
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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Thanks Jim!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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Phasers on stun!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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I’m a doctor, not a head shrinker, Jim.
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Realistically, this is just a propaganda event planned and coordinated by corporations, Fox News, etc.
The so-called “grassroots” people who will be there will be the “dittoheads” who follow the marching orders they’re given.
Don’t mean to be too cynical but I think it’s very ambitious to think you’re going to be among people who could be educated or enlightened to anything other than doing as they’ve been programmed.
With that in mind, I’ve seen some very good documentaries shot by people in similar situations. What their approach seems to be is to be as friendly and impartial as possible in asking non-accusatory questions.
Their approach was not to ask pressing questions but to use a series of non-threatening questions to encourage the loons to speak up and begin voluntarily expressing themselves.
Never arguing facts or issues with them but allowing them to expose their hatred, racism, prejudice, etc. openly, thus telling us much more about them than parroting Rush would accomplish.
You could ask them:
If they know what the current tax rates are or what they were under Bush compared to Obama.
To Define socialism.
What do they hope to accomplish with the protest.
Would they like to get rid of all services that the Federal government provides because of taxes.
Would they like to get rid of all socialist programs including SS and Medicare?
Ask them questions about the Boston Tea Party.
Ask them questions about what the branches of government are called and other civics questions.
Bottom line, I think you will get the most enlightening footage and be safe and sound in that crowd by asking questions as a neutral reporter and finding ways to draw them out through a comfort level with youas opposed to asking any strongly confrontational questions which will likely inspire anger and the simple regurgitation of their talking points.
FWIW, I think the coolest footage you’ll get is what they volunteer to talk about.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
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Excellent suggestions, Adlib.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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I guess I should have specified that the camera I am taking is a still camera, not a video camera.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
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WTF??????????
all this time i thought there would be video/……
:kickstable:
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
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delete the above…..
you DID say that you would have a mini-recorder so we can STILL get in some laughs!!!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
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Video would be very cool though if you could!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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Aw….get on the YouTubes, man!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
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You’re going to try and confuse these folks with FACTS? Really that isn’t fair…I mean …facts? Real honest to goodness facts…. dang.
Geeesh Facts are soooo irksome when it comes to bias and talking points and programming and Fox and…well you get the picture.
On the other hand, for pure comedic value you could ask them if the Boston Patriots used real bags and if they still start their season with a ritual tea dumping.
Sorry… just read a bunch of HP posts on Homeland Security vs. gun control and my teeth itch. If ignorance is bliss, these must be the happiest people in the world…
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Ask what policy they would like to see changed if the tea parties succeed. And what is success.
chillinout, as someone who has done a lot of interviews, I would recommend being as non-challenging as possible. Just ask questions like you’re really interested in their point of view and their goals. You’ll get better answers this way, and you’ll stay out of trouble!
Be careful.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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Excellent point, Nellie.
I’ve talked with some of these folks as well – including a guy who thought the Montana Militia was the best thing going (”far better than the Klan” – which had made its appearance in MT during the 1990s). I’ve also dealt with some of the right-wing wackos at the Christian Liberty Academy in Arlington, IL — the largest home-school program in the country. Play it cool and ask the questions you want to ask. You’re looking for information, not for a fight.
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Ask if they know that the original Boston Tea Party was a protest against a big company — the Wal*Mart of its day.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
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yeah…..like they’ll know what that means…..
a majority of these people don’t know WHY they’re there……
just to protest obama…..
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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but if you ask, you’ll get information
You don’t always ask a question to get an answer to that specific question. You ask questions to get information. Maybe that’s not the best question he could ask… but maybe it will give him another idea that’s better.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
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asking questions makes rethugs’ heads ache…….
my point was to keep it as simple and conversational/easy going as possible….
people LOVE to talk…..
however, if they feel like they’re answering a pop-quiz or like they have to “sound smart” you’re less like to get the information you want…….
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
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Fine. I was just trying to help.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
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fine. i know you were….
*i got your point…..hence the snark about rethugs rethug headaches*
:don’tbethatwaywithme:
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
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And most don’t know a fucking thing about U.S. history.
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Ask them if they’re protesting because they think their taxes are going to go up.
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Please be careful, chilli – it could be a peaceful event, but with that idiot stoking the fires, I just worry a little.
http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200904140032
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Hey chillinout I can loan you my “Bush Lied; They Died” shirt will all the names of the fallen soldiers from Iraq up to 2008.
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When is this tea party?
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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From noon to 7pm, with a protest march in there somewhere.
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Don’t forget to memorize the lyrics to “Texas Love Song” so you know who you are dealing with in the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haH-tClY8ME
I heard from a friend you’d been messing around
With a cute little thing I’d been dating uptown
Well I don’t know if I like that idea much
Well you’d better stay clear I might start acting rough
You out of town guys sure think you’re real keen
Think all of us boys are homespun and green
But that’s wrong my friend so get this through your head We’re tough and we’re Texan with necks good and red
So it’s Ki yi yippie yi yi
You long hairs are sure gonna die
Our American home was clean till you came
And kids still respected the president’s name
And the eagle still flew in the sky
Hearts filled with national pride
Then you came along with your drug-crazy songs
Goddamit you’re all gonna die
How dare you sit there and drink all our beer
Oh it’s made for us workers who sweat spit and swear
The minds of our daughters are poisoned by you
With your communistic politics and them negro blues
Well I’m gonna quit talking and take action now
Run all of you fairies clean out of this town
Oh I’m dog tired of watching you mess up our lives Spending the summertime naturally high
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Thanks for your concern for my safety. And yes something could go wrong and I could end up not faring as well as I would hope.
A couple of things you need to know about me. 1) I am a pretty big guy, (6′4″ and 235 lbs), and know how to take care of myself. 2) I was raised in an extremely redneck part of this state. I am talking militias, gun racks in the back windows of pickups etc. so I know how to talk to these people and a little bit how they think.
I can fit in with them.
At least, I think I can.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
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I feel better but I would pack some heat.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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Hmm – is there somebody else who can trail you? Just to keep an eye out?
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If you don’t make it out of there alive, can I have your car?
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
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LOL No, that goes to my daughter. In fact everything goes to my daughter.
However, my car being a classic and all, and my daughter being known for her reckless driving, I cringe every time I think about her driving my baby.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
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I laughed at that. What is wrong with me?
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
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Funny way to make a serious point.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
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Thanks chilliout for being so brave. Pick me up a 9mm glock if you can. You should get a good price from some wingnut in the crowd.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
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Ask them what they think of your Confederate Flag lapel pin. (You were planning on wearing one, yes?)
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seems like you’ve got the questions, chili……
now you need the right costume and strateeeegery…..
i presume that you’re going to tell them that you’re from a right-wing site so they’ll be honest……or at least try…..
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
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I am going to just tell them I am from FreeRangeTalk. I am sure none of them are going to have any idea what this site is about.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
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Tell them you’re a Free “Ranger” way more s.exy and mysterious. Girls like that.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
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LOL
Good idea, that could even sound a little right-wing: Like the Army Rangers, the Texas Rangers. hehe
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
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Maybe casually mention that Chuck Norris is a BFF? Flex your muscles!
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
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LOL!!!!
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
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And don’t forget, Ted Nugent.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
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OH god. That gun-toting nun-raping asshole?!
Perfect!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
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Interesting if not revolting fact about that piece of shit of a human being. He hunts near my home. For cats. Yep. The lead singer from Night Ranger is a friend of his. He lives near by. Good ol’ Ted likes to hunt domestic/feral cats. Human garbage.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
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What a fuckhead.
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
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I’ve missed you!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
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and he could wear a ‘ranger’-type hat, too, to cover the long hair….
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
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Heh. The word “Free” should perk up their pointed ears – right wingers think they own the word – so that might make them stop and listen.
But I’ll second others’ concerns — be careful!!!
You’re asking some good questions — I’ll see if I can think of anything else.
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Chillinout, just posted on the Main my video parody of Fox covering tea baggers tomorrow, see what you think.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
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p.s. Great minds think alike!
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Interesting:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/current-events/10959-april-15-tea-par ty-hoax.html
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You guys have made me realize that I should probably wear a hat so I can tuck my long hair away.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
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Pepper spray might not be a bad idea, either!
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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Just make sure it’s not your
“Another Liberal Hippie For Obama” hat.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
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Nope. It is going to be a NASCAR hat. I saw one at the local auto parts store I am going to buy.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
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you don’t have an NRA hat?
I’m sure you could pick one up at the local gas station
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
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Stick a can of Skoal in your back pocket.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
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That wouldn’t look right because I wouldn’t have the worn circle on the pocket.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
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you have a bullet-proof vest?
Homeland Security is warning all police officers to wear safety garments
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
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Fuck, I wouldn’t go out there. Bunch of nutjobs. You appeal to that type of marginalized, fringe element and you’re going to get a few that are way over the edge… dangerous.
I’m getting more scared for chill!
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Please ask them how they propose we pay for all of the above mentioned services. Also, ask them how they think we are going to pay for the wars their guy started. Thank you Chillinout. You are a good American. Be careful. They are not sane.
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you’re a brave man, chili….
be careful out there….
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You be safe, Chillin’. Some of these people are fiercely stupid and possibly dangerous.
That being said, perhaps you could bring up the fact that only the very top marginal tax rates are being raised and only to 1990’s levels, and add on “how were things going for you in the 1990s?”
Ask them if anyone remembers that the top marginal tax rate under Eisenhower (R) was 91%. And if they remember that the middle class flourished in the 50s and did until the “redistribution of wealth” by successive Republican administrations to the rich.
Please try not to get beat up.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
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I’m guessing a large percentage of them are armed.
I actually fear for the police who have to work these events
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
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I’m hip. But most of them are professional cowards. I would doubt their testicular fortitude to stand up to authority. I COULD however, see them cornering a LIBRUL and beating the shit out of him. I’m just sayin’.
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If the person is really down with “down with socialism”, they aren’t going to mind you confirming the elimination of such things as public roads, the fire & police depts., libraries, 911 services, parks & national parks, let alone SS and Medicare.
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April 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
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Oh yes, I didn’t even think of those socialist programs.
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April 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
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public schools, postal service
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April 14th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
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Thanks.
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
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I’m guessing they would be thrilled to shut down the schools
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
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Oh yeah. Keeping their kids safe from the COMMIE education system.
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April 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
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^^^I didn’t think of these either ^^^
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
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what are you trying to do, get him killed????
he has to keep the questions SIMPLE!!!
rethugs are very easily frustrated…..
they shoot first, answer questions later…..
:justsayin’:
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
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You do have a point!
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
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Exactly!
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keep an eye out for the Book Burning Festival. I hear some of the Tea Parties will be burning some books as well.
also, keep an eye out for any littering, esp. plastic bags, and ask them if they are OK with killing the creatures who live in the water — or if they’re willing to be ticketed or arrested for littering in order to make their point
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be sure to ask them if they are protesting Bush’s Tax Policies, since those are the taxes they are paying today
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